30% of Confiscated Firearms in California are Homemade

30% of Confiscated Firearms in California are Homemade
30% of Confiscated Firearms in California are Homemade

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- Several media outlets in California have teamed up with the anti-Second Amendment organization, The Trace, to investigate and write about homemade guns in California. They claim that BATFE sources say 30 percent of guns confiscated in California are homemade. Given there are over 400 million guns in private hands in the United States, and the border between California and other states is porous, and only lightly regulated; it seems an extraordinary number. From nbcbayarea.com:

An Investigation by NBC Bay Area in partnership with NBC San Diego, NBC Los Angeles, and the non-profit journalists at The Trace found that law enforcement agencies across California are recovering record numbers of ghost guns. According to several ATF sources, 30 percent of all guns now recovered by agents in communities throughout California are homemade, un-serialized firearms, known on the street as “ghost guns.”

Guns have been made at home and in small shops for the entire history of the USA.  From criminaldefeselawyer.com:

Individuals in this country have been making their own guns for centuries. The practice is deeply rooted in our constitutional history and tradition. Legal scholars have recognized that the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms would be meaningless in practice unless the state afforded individuals the ability to exercise that right—which includes making their own guns.

For the past almost half-century, however, the sale and subsequent control of firearms have been heavily regulated by federal law. It may come as somewhat of a surprise that even in this era of regulation, it is still completely legal to make and own a homemade gun. Even more surprising is the fact that a gun made wholly or even twenty percent at home need not be registered and its owner is not required to be licensed.

The individual manufacture of guns has not been illegal or regulated at all until very recently, and then only ineffectively. California recently required people who wish to make guns at home to apply for a state-supplied serial number before they make the gun. The law has been largely ignored.

Government regulation of individual making of firearms is probably unconstitutional under the Second Amendment, as applied to the states by the fourteenth amendment. It should be unconstitutional for the federal government because of lack of jurisdiction, but with the promiscuous application of the commerce clause to all activities, that remains to be seen.

In the world at large, the making of guns at home has been criminalized in nations with fewer Constitutional protections than the United States. That has not stopped homemade and small, clandestine shop manufacture. From Beyond State Control, published by the Small Arms Survey:

Improvised and craft-produced small arms account for a sizable proportion of weapons seized in domestic law enforcement operations in several countries. In the UK, some 80 per cent of all guns used in crime in 2011 and 2012 were improvised, craft-produced, or converted; in São Paulo, Brazil, 48 per cent of the sub-machine guns recovered during the same period were homemade; and in Indonesia, 98 percent of the guns confiscated from robbery suspects in 2013 were homemade.

The approach pushed by those who wish for a disarmed population is not reasonable or achievable. The FGC9 shown in the picture does not use any parts considered to be “gun parts” in the European Union, which has far, far stricter restrictions on firearms than any being considered in the United States.

The magazine is a homemade version of the Glock magazines. The barrel is homemade from a steel tube, with the machining done by a homemade, inexpensive, electrochemical machining apparatus that cost less than $100. The homemade machine created bore, chamber, and rifling that are fully functional. Other parts were printed on inexpensive 3D printers.

I have my doubts about the 30% figure. It seems quite high. While the article about “Ghost Guns” harps on the lack of any ability to trace homemade firearms, the utility of tracing guns in preventing crime has, at best, been minimal. Tracing guns only allows someone to determine to whom the first retail sale of the gun was made.  That results in a few guns being returned to their legitimate owners each year. Otherwise, it has almost no effect.

Most guns move through many hands before they are used in a crime. Determining the first retail owner results in a dead-end once the gun is stolen. The totalitarian impulse is to restrict the law-abiding access to gun parts; then to information on making guns, then to access to machine tools. It never works to reduce crime.

As shown in other countries, limiting access to firearms parts or even to machine tools has been spectacularly ineffective. Homemade/small shop guns are being made in Australia, India, Brazil, China, Canada, and now, in spectacular quantities, California.

The United States is a first-world country with easy access to metals, machine tools, electricity, and computing power. Making guns is 15th-century technology. Making an unregulated gun in the United States is a weekend project any hobbyist is capable of.

The attempt to reduce the access to legal guns has resulted in a burgeoning culture that creates guns beyond state control.  There are physical limits to what California laws can accomplish. It appears they are bumping up against those limits in their zeal to disarm their population.

At what point do the proponents of disarming the public admit their scheme is counter-productive, ineffective, and does nothing to stop crime?

Never. It is not criminals they wish to stop from having guns. It is you. Failing that, they wish to make you into a criminal.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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    Zond
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    Zond

    30% – – – there are lies – big lies and then there are statistics….
    Accountant interview:
    Interviewer: “How much is two plus two?
    Candidate: “How much do you want it to be?” That should be clear enough…..

    Heed the Call-up
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    Heed the Call-up

    Yes, the percentage does sound high. However, it does not state the firearms were 3D printed, just “home-made”. I recall as a child learning how to make a “zip gun”. I never made one, nor fired one, but it does not take much to put together a tube and a firing mechanism. The story is intentionally misleading, they want the readers to believe criminals are buying 80% lowers and manufacturing firearms. I suspect if that were true, *that* would be newsworthy and we would have heard about that. It’s probably more like the “firearms” that we read about being turned… Read more »

    tomcat
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    tomcat

    Building a gun is a good experience and when you get done there is a finished product you can use. I would not mess with 3d plastic but to each his own and if this is the only type of gun you can get it would have to do. Self protection and personal safety is the key to living longer.

    MICHAEL J
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    MICHAEL J

    If a gun isn’t used in a offensive crime, who cares?

    Xaun Loc
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    Xaun Loc

    We have all seen the claim that “BATFE sources” say 30% of guns confiscated by BATFE agents in California were these homemade so-called ghost guns, but has anyone seen an actual source for this supposed “fact”? Or any information on the actual number of guns involved in the total? IF the number has any basis at all, I would strongly suspect it represents either a single seizure or a small number of seizures from a single investigation and that the total number of guns involved is quite small. I would also be interested in seeing what these supposedly homemade ghost… Read more »

    Deplorable Bill
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    Deplorable Bill

    There is a guy who filmed and posted, on you tube,some California “officials” (NOT COPS) who confiscated his home made AR 15 that he had foolishly registered. They, the two guys who confiscated his gun, said it would not pass a drop test. The posting is probably still available to see for yourself. I wonder if this confiscation was even legal in California. There was nothing I saw that would make me think it was anything more than someone who had gotten the registration information and confiscated it for themselves. If you don’t already have a home made AR, Glock,… Read more »

    MikeRoss
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    MikeRoss

    Are they all actual home made guns, or are some guns with no, or obliterated, serial numbers?

    freewill
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    freewill

    over night millions of law abiding citizens were turned into felons with the stroke of a pen for not turning in their bump stocks!

    Ironeyes
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    Ironeyes

    It’s time for public hangings again. These mass shooters will not be dealt with but will languish for 20 years or so in prison and then some “woke” Psychiatrist will say “he is all better now, parole him into society”. One thing about old west justice that is missing is swift punishment and finality.

    StreetSweeper
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    StreetSweeper

    They make (and confiscate) guns in maximum security prisons regularly. It’s 500 year old technology and not difficult. It is impossible to do away with firearms gun-grabbers.

    Ryben Flynn
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    Ryben Flynn

    All my 7 of ARs are homebuilt and only one has a serialized lower. It was on sale at my LGS and faster to build the AR pistol than spend the time to mill and drill another 80% lower.