Homeowner Shoots 3 Masked Intruders may have used Semi-Automatic Rifle

Cul-de-sac where the gunfight occurred. Residence involved is at top of the image. Consider the scene at 4 a.m. with a full moon at 55 degrees high, about in the direction of the driveway leading from the cul-de-sac toward the edge of the white roof. North is approximately at the upper left corner of this image.

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- On Monday morning, 16 September, at about 4 a.m., a gunfight erupted at the end of the cul-de-sac of White Oak Ct. SE, in Conyers, Georgia.

According to reports, three masked intruders approached three residents of the home. One of the intruders produced a handgun and fired shots at the residents. Then numerous shots were fired. At least one witness described it as an exchange of shots.

During the gunfight, the three masked intruders were all hit. One died at the scene, two others were fatally wounded and died at the hospital. From www.cnn.com:

Another neighbor ran out to help after he heard what sounded like five shots from a handgun, he said.
“Then I heard somebody have an assault rifle,” Carlos Watson told WSB. “And it was a slew of shots that came out.”

The homeowner, a man reported to be about 50 years old, called 911 immediately after the gunfight. Neighbors say he owns a semi-automatic rifle. From wsbtv.com:

The homeowner who shot the masked intruder is a man. Neighbors say he's a truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is highly protective of his mother.

I talked to a retired police officer. He said his first thought, on reading of the gunfight, was the homeowner had a shotgun or a semi-automatic rifle. He opined it was very likely the demise of these three young men prevented hundreds, if not thousands of future crimes.

The number of shots has me leaning toward the semi-automatic rifle option.

A reported relative of one of the suspects said, as recorded by wtoc.com:

“That's not how it’s supposed to go. I understand one shot to stop the people, the victims or whatever, but aggressively to shoot these little teens, that's overkill. That's too much to handle,” said an unidentified male, who was reportedly related to one of the teens who died.

The obvious question, is: When confronted by three masked intruders at 4 a.m., how is a homeowner to know their ages? Is it relevant? A 15-year-old can kill you just as dead as an 18-Year-old, or a 25-year-old.   15-year-old young men may be deadlier. They do not know their own mortality, and may be more reckless.

When fired upon by three masked intruders, there are few who would deny a homeowner the right to firing back.

It is worthwhile to note the defender appears to have used a semi-automatic rifle, exactly the type that several Democrat candidates wish to outlaw. At least one, Beto O'Rourke, has said he wishes to confiscate.

This is exactly why semi-automatic rifles make good home defense choices. Multiple attackers at your home, threatening your life and the lives of your loved ones. The rifles offer ease of use, accuracy, sufficient power, and enough capacity with standard 30 round magazines to allow for misses, multiple attackers, or attempts to penetrate barriers.

Two signs on the property say: No Trespassing. “Violators may be shot”. The writing is a bit indistinct on the “may be shot” part. It is not clear the signs would have been legible at 4 a.m. There was a full moon in the sky, but the property is shaded with numerous trees. The moon was about 55 degrees above the horizon, slightly West of South, which would have been roughly above the white roofed house at the bottom of the image. That should have illuminated much of the cul-de-sac. The sky was clear at 4 a.m. in Atlanta, about 20 miles from Conyers. It appears there was enough light for accurate shooting.

Police say they found two guns at the scene. It is uncertain if the two guns include the firearm used by the defender.

Some in the media are claiming this could be a “Stand Your Ground” case. I do not see it. I do not know of any self-defense law that requires you to retreat while you are being threatened by multiple assailants and being fired upon.

“Duty to retreat” laws typically require a person to retreat, only if they may do so safely. That caveat would be unlikely to apply when being shot at.

It will be interesting to see if the police release the model and caliber of the firearm used by the defender.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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It was around 4am, the teens were on private property that was not theirs, at least one had a firearm which was fired during the confrontation, etc, etc. Yet the relative thinks retaliation from the property owners was uncalled for. Should the property owners have known that the intruders were just teens out for a little 4am fun and just said “now you boys take your guns and go on home before I take a switch to you?” Should the property owners be expected to accept and absorb all the blame for how this confrontation ended? Why weren’t the teens… Read more »

MajorMike
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MajorMike

Three fewer votes for the Democrats in 2020.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@MM, Why, because they are dead? That never stopped the dmc, before!

Will
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Will

@[email protected],I agree with both comments 100% !

Rock
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Rock

“That’s not how it is supposed to go”… YES it is, these criminal pieces of shit got EXACTLY what they should have. It doesn’t matter if they are teens or geriatrics, they were masked, approached the victims and fired at them… THEY initiated the response. Three less up and coming thugs, GOOD !
Beto resembles Toad from American Grafitti…

gearjammer
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gearjammer

Criminals didn’t use “assault riffles’ , their OK in betto’s book!

gearjammer
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gearjammer

Beto would make a terrible getaway driver, he seems to get his car stuck every were he goes.

Xaun Loc
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Xaun Loc

The obvious question, is: When confronted by three masked intruders at 4 a.m., how is a homeowner to know their ages? Is it relevant? Those are not the obvious questions (at least not to me), although I do agree that the ages of the masked armed robbers is irrelevant. To me the obvious question is: How would anyone take this story at face value as it has been reported so far? If we believe the reports so far, this 50-ish truck driver and some unknown number of unidentified friends or family members were standing around in his front yard at… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@XL, I don’t think that this story, so far, is the facts, but rather just media speculation. So, if it does not quite add up,yet, that would not be unusual.

Will
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Will

I really enjoy stories like this with such happy endings. The three young idiots of color died of stupid ! Plus,the homeowner didn’t have to fuck with reloading to exterminate this scum ! Just look how much future crime this man nipped in the bud.

MICHAEL J
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MICHAEL J

How dare anyone defending themselves shoot so many bullets? Guess those crying about their ages weren’t someone who were morally influential in their short miserable lives.
They chose unwisely.

Laddyboy
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Laddyboy

So! These young THUGS were WANTON to harm another individual. These THUGS decided to attack and kill a home owner. They made their ILLOGICAL CHOICE. They paid the price for their ILLEGAL ACTIONS. The DEFENDER’S choice of weapon is not important. The DEFENDER did what he needed to do to stay alive and breathing. I am sorry for the loss of the deceased THUGS’ family. I can understand their loss and their FEELING of emptiness. However, that does not excuse the actions of these THUGS. In America, YOU ALONE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!!!

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

I have to slightly disagree, Laddyboy. The defender’s choice of weapon, if it was an AR15, is important. It accomplished what we have home protection weapons for, with home invasions happening in all neighborhoods and commonly multiple attackers. It had sufficient magazine capacity and adequate accuracy for one person to stop three attackers. That, Beto, is why we’ll not hand over our semiauto rifles and 17 round pistol magazines to a drunk Mexican pretender who runs away from a traffic accident and then thinks anyone with a brain would want him to run our nation. As to complaints of the… Read more »

Dr. Strangelove
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Dr. Strangelove

Considering that all three perps attained room temperature, I’d say that the homeowner used a rifle or he was an exemplary shot with a pistol.

Vince
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Vince

What firearm or weapon was used to defend yourself is unimportant. The age of each armed assailant is unimportant. How many times each assailant was shot by necessity is unimportant. The only important fact is that the defender is alive and the assailants dead. Long live the 2A!

Mac
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Mac

Liberals don’t want a gun used unless it for their protection, then the sky is the limit of fire power. Proof that liberals are the poster child for ‘STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!’

nrringlee
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nrringlee

Three post natal abortions successfully accomplished. Send Planned Parenthood their commission.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

I have had the experience to return fire both in the military and as a civilian. While there may be diplomacy before the first round goes off, there can be none after the first round goes off. When it’s on, it’s on and it’s on till it’s over with. Start shooting at my wife or kids and I will start putting windows in places they were not designed to go. Attack my home and family? That fence, that gate, that door is not there to protect me from you, it’s there to protect you from me. The tool(s) that I… Read more »

Vanns40
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Vanns40

A retired LEO here commenting on your comment: Excellent, couldn’t have said it better, thanks!

Will
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@Deplorable Bill, you’re spot on right. Great comment !

Will
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Will

The deceased are two young black men and one young Hispanic man. If they would had been White the article would had said so.

ras52
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ras52

Will, you got that right!

Gdubb
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Gdubb

Yes sir. And if they were white this story would likely not have even made the news.

gearjammer
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gearjammer

Maybe they were save the planet protesters out gathering petition signatures…