Refusing DOD Covid-19 Mandate Can Turn Military Personnel into ‘Prohibited Persons’

Not getting the shot could have permanent side effects, too. (DOD News)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “To defend this Nation, we need a healthy and ready force,” Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin announced Tuesday. “After careful consultation with medical experts and military leadership, and with the support of the President, I have determined that mandatory vaccination against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is necessary to protect the Force and defend the American people.”

His bottom line?

“I therefore direct the Secretaries of the Military Departments to immediately begin full vaccination of all members of the Armed Forces under DoD authority on active duty or in the Ready Reserve, including the National Guard, who are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19.”

We’ve all read accounts, some credible, some more like clickbait, of reasons to doubt the safety of getting the shots. We’ve seen the government’s position change, we’ve seen demands for mandates, travel passes, and even, among those less inclined to mask their true natures, internment camps, among other concerns.

We also know that, as much as some special interests try to portray those who doubt government assurances as “deniers” and worse, objections are hardly limited to those they smear as “rightwing extremists.”  As just one example, the Chicago Police Union has announced its unequivocal opposition to mandated injections.

My purpose here is not to argue about the merits or dangers of the “treatment”—my own position is that I have seen enough credible evidence of serious risks to make me realize I am not qualified to give my informed consent to receive the shot(s), however many those turn out to be. But that’s not what I want to talk about.  We’re here to look at threats to our right to keep and bear arms, and Austin’s mandate creates a huge one.

By now I presume most AmmoLand readers have seen attorney and author Evan Nappen’s analysis of how not being “vaccinated” could land someone on the “No Fly” list, and how Democrats (and some idiot Republicans) have been pushing for “No Fly/No Buy” for years.

Leave it to gun-grabbers to figure out a way to exploit the health hysteria to advance citizen disarmament. That, along with Sec. Austin’s total order raises a serious question.

Per the Associated Press:

“More than 800,000 service members have yet to get their shots, according to Pentagon data.”

What happens if any of them say “No”?

Politico answers that question for us:

“If they are tried and convicted in the appeals court, the case reaches the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. If a service member is convicted in this court, they would likely receive a dishonorable discharge, a bad-conduct discharge, or, in the case of an officer, a dismissal.”

That’s one way to continue with the “purge” of the military and will continue to punish naysayers throughout their civilian careers that follow– but it also raises another issue that is more fundamental to freedom. Per ATF:

“Identify Prohibited Persons The Gun Control Act (GCA), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), makes it unlawful for certain categories of persons to ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms or ammunition, to include any person … who has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;”

As a side note, Hunter Biden only received an administrative discharge, so he still gets to have his gun, whereas a veteran who served well but doesn’t want his body used in a potentially lethal political experiment will be ordered disarmed for life. And I wouldn’t recommend lying on the 4473, since we don’t all have Hunter’s connections.

As yet, a date for Austin’s mandate to be completed has not yet been announced, nor has any lawsuit on behalf of objecting service personnel. There are some legal doubts about the “merits” of such a case if the “vaccine” is FDA-“approved,” but the best-case scenario I can envision at this time would be for a judge to issue an injunction against implementation and then run the clock out until a fed-up American people can throw the current wretched kakistocracy out on its ear.

Provided there are enough citizens who were raised believing in the Founders’ Republic left. It’s getting increasingly pointless to argue against the TINVOWOOT sentiment seeing CNN headlines like “You do not have the ‘constitutional right’ to refuse the Covid-19 vaccine,” and knowing how many Democrat voters nod their heads in unthinking agreement.


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago

What if all 800,000 of them said go pound sand and went AWOL? That would be the answer of the century. They may THINK they own you, but in the end…YOU OWN YOURSELF. As for “prohibited persons” being someone dishonorably discharged for refusing to be a lab rat? Is that the line right after SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED that my glasses can’t seem to focus on?

donfranko
donfranko
1 month ago

I very seldom post links to other articles, but this one is very clear and the information is important. Take a few min. to read it over; From the American Thinker website:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/08/did_the_fda_pull_a_baitandswitch_on_the_american_people.html

gregs
gregs
1 month ago

what if i’m doing all that and still don’t think there is enough credible information put out by the makers of these vaccines, trials and accurate information of adverse reactions by our government? if you get your medical information from youtube, i seriously doubt you are fully informed. some is good and some is bad.
it is a personal choice to get this experimental vaccine and to force someone to get it is akin to slavery. my body, my choice. seems to work for abortion, how about this? or is that only a one way street you drive on?

Mack
Mack
1 month ago

Maybe this Wuhan Virus is a Bio-Weapon and should be treated as such.

These “vaccines” really are not in the traditional sense.

They can be dangerous with their ‘Spike’ proteins.

Austin should be fired.

Country Boy
Country Boy
1 month ago
Reply to  Mack

wuhan virus is a bioweapon and so is this so called “vaccine”. My friend of 64 yrs died 3 weeks after getting the “vaccine”. The woke military leadership is helping the CCP to killed our armed forces personell.. They’ll be no army for China to fight when they want to defeat America. Do your research online. All the news channels are lying about “the vaccine”. I see no reason military personnel should be forced to take a dangerous vaccine against their will.

Mack
Mack
1 month ago

You write: “… (and some idiot Republicans)” — more accurate to describe them as Collaborators.

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Mack

Many are both.

Mack
Mack
30 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Yes. This is accurate.

I might add: Foolish.

Dee
Dee
1 month ago

Wonder how people feel about that communist socialist governor in Texas [fu(kboy Abbott] trying to force cities and local municipalities to do his evil bidding even threatened with defund the schools. Crazy sh!t!! Can’t make this stuff up. Smh

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Dee

What are you talking about?

donfranko
donfranko
1 month ago
Reply to  Dee

^^ Bolshevik Troll ^^

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago

Texas cuckservative Gov Abbott backs forced vaccines by “private” employers.

https://texasscorecard.com/state/gov-abbott-refuses-to-address-employer-vaccine-mandates/

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago

No one made them sign, Schart.

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Follow the ball Shart. Forced vax is unconscionable but enlistment’s not slavery per se.

Hypocrisy: Your misrep of Romans 13 & Constitution requires YOU to forcibly inject soldiers if so ordered under “law” – until the “sole final arbiter” SupCt says otherwise.

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Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Russn8r

Who’s a liar?

You take Romans 13 out of context, refuse to admit it doesn’t mean Unlimited Submission to all governing authorities’ laws & orders, however unconscionable.

You misrep Art III US Constitution. It does not say SCrOTUS = “sole final arbiter” of Constitutionality. That would make the oath a joke.

Last edited 1 month ago by Russn8r
Cruiser
Cruiser
1 month ago

Trust your Government, look at me now.
Agent orange , heart problems.

Last edited 1 month ago by Cruiser
gooder12
gooder12
1 month ago

What can I say? Actually, I skimmed this and knew right away that my 69 years of being Open-Minded would actually enjoy reading it and I might even learn something, but then my mind said Why…. Why read it as I already know 90% of what it says which is the way I find my Free Mind reacting to some Big Named Political folks on both the right and the left as I know what their view is before they speak a word. I will continue on being my own person and voting for the issues or the person and… Read more »

Xaun Loc
Xaun Loc
1 month ago

We’ve all read accounts, some credible, some more like clickbait… And this entire article falls 100% in the clickbait category. The article presents two ways that this might come about — both astronomically unlikely. 1) The first alternative would require passage of a “NoFly/NoBuy” law combined with creation of a list of people who are not vaccinated and passage of another law to add unvaccinated people the “No Fly” list. As nearly impossible as that combination of events clearly is (except in the minds of extreme paranoids), even this combination is still more likely than the alternative presented in the… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

Thanks for coming out of the closet, Comrade.

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

You fail to take into account ONE FACTORE, a factor wwith which we never have had to deal in the past, ever. This is COVID, the darling sweetheart of the present ruling class. Most schols require certain vaccinations for their students. When one “opts out” there are accomodatioins made, and the contuned persence of the “rebel” is tolerated. Remember the sailboarder in So California who was ARRESTED as he wassailing on his board, half a mile offshore, NOT ONE PERSON in sight, except for the swelled-headed coppers who saw him. He was “violating orders” to remain home and inside. The… Read more »

gregs
gregs
1 month ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

there is already a no fly list and you don’t know if you are on it or not and if you are there is no way to get off. to add people to a secret list for not getting a vaccine, which the government has everyone’s name who got one, wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibilities. also, some members of congress already have put forth bills that would incorporate no fly, no buy, no vac.

WI Patriot
WI Patriot
1 month ago

Chaptered out, huh…poor, poor pitiful you…

Xaun Loc
Xaun Loc
1 month ago
Reply to  WI Patriot

If he had been chaptered out, he would know that the whole article is nothing but the clickbait ravings of a paranoid lunatic.

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  Xaun Loc

come back in six months and tell us all about how it went down. We will KNOW who’s got the tinfoil hat on their pointy haid.

Knute
Knute
1 month ago
Reply to  WI Patriot

I do not believe that you are a veteran. Care to tell us all what your MOS was, and what weapon(s) you qualified on?

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Knute

You sound like an 80-year-old juvenile, Schart.

Knute
Knute
1 month ago
Reply to  Knute

You should. Because if you fail to list your qualifications, everyone will know you made the whole thing up! 🙂

Levelhead
Levelhead
1 month ago

Well over a million people have received the vaccinations (including me) and experienced no ill effects. The odds are way, way higher that you will get sick or die from Covid than some fairy tale, after effect of getting a shot. We determine if a drug is safe, any drug, by a study which involves giving test subjects the drug and watching for negative effects. With millions of people having participated in such a test, never before has any drug been tested like the vaccines, and been found safe and effective. Now let’s go to civil rights. The government tells… Read more »

Idaho Bob
Idaho Bob
1 month ago
Reply to  Levelhead

Safe and effective? VAERS data released, I believe on 8/13/21, by the CDC showed a total of 595,622 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 13,068 deaths and 81,050 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and Aug. 13, 2021. The death number, no small thing, is greater than all vaccines put together over the last 30 years. This includes flu, polio, measles, etc… During this 30 year period of time approximately 6,000 reported deaths had occurred. That is only 200 per year. Now, looking at these so called vaccines, they have surpassed the 6,000 number… Read more »

waterfowler19
waterfowler19
1 month ago
Reply to  Idaho Bob

over 633K Covid deaths in the US so far

Idaho Bob
Idaho Bob
1 month ago
Reply to  waterfowler19

By now you must know that that number is not accurate. The CDC has admitted to inflating the number by 1600%. They have purposefully counted deaths that were non virus just because someone had tested positive. We also know that the PRC test used was/ is producing an overly high rate of false-positives, about 90%. Do some homework, if as many people died from the covid, why has the death rate not risen from prior years? Because they changed the way they counted virus deaths to fit their narrative. Live in fear if you must, but I refuse to be… Read more »

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  waterfowler19

You mean like the drive by shooting victim who was listed as a “Covid” death? The list is endless who was listed since more “money” is given to the hospitals and states for every “Convid” death reported. You and “Levelhead’ must have the same daddy. See above.

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  Levelhead

this “drug” has never been submitted to standardprotocols for testing, whieh ALWAYS includes double blind studies on both the safety AND the efficacy of any drug. This has never gne through even the most basic clinical trials. So far, in only six months, deaths and serious adverse effects have outnumbered the total number of these events for the entire span of years for all other vaccines administered in the United States, running now comsome fifteen years if I recall correctly. So this ONE injection has more serious adverse records than ALL OTERH VACCINES COMBINED for thirty times the time run… Read more »

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  Tionico

A nurse practitioner said to me…”WHAT? you’re not on any prescription meds at all?” I said, I DON’T TRUST DOCTORS with all of their voodoo drugs which are toxic as hell and mess you up. So, no, at 67 I’m on ZERO meds. I’ll take vitamin C any day.

gregs
gregs
1 month ago
Reply to  Levelhead

baaaaaaa, you screen name is wrong, should be sheephead. co-morbidity is the greatest factor to contracting the wuhan virus. nearly all of the people who have died with this disease have had at least one co-morbidity, the more co-morbidities the greater risk of death. hence the need to keep yourself healthy. the death rate from wuhan is >2%, and all the above are in that group. your immune system is well equipped to rid itself from pathogens and is a better way to control this virus, which is never going to go away, instead of getting an experimental shot, which… Read more »

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Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Levelhead

Yep. CDC lists 6,128 US reported vaccine deaths as of today. A Harvard study estimated only 1% of vaccine reactions are reported. Adjusting for that, could be ~600,000 dead. I know 2 healthy people who died from it, 3 others who had strokes within 48hrs. Medicos are unlikely to admit or report that they high-pressured someone to get a vaccine that killed them, stroked them out, etc.

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Russn8r

That’s what I figure, x10, which looks conservative, puts vaccine deaths higher than the true number of covid deaths, adjusted for…

Testing fraud & oversensitivity due to excess cycles

Listing accidents & Stage 4 cancer deaths as covid deaths

Death By Cuomo, denial of HCQ-Ivermectin-Budesonide, etc

Degforyou
Degforyou
1 month ago
Reply to  Russn8r

The more the vacines kills the less the dems will have to worry about. Don’t you see whats going on?

Russn8r
Russn8r
30 days ago
Reply to  Degforyou

No, because more Ds are taking it than Rs

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  Degforyou

Because it will kill off lots of dems!

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  Russn8r

If you die within 14 days of the vaccination the CDC puts you down as UNVACCINATED.

Degforyou
Degforyou
1 month ago
Reply to  Levelhead

I beg to be different on your mask comment. Masks are not safe and goverment has said so. In Florida, there was a group (don’t remember the name) that took several masks to a lab and found several bad germs and some not so bad. The bad ones wouldn’t take to log to die or at the least get very sick. If you don’t believe me, do research. Sorry for not remembering the name of the germs.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  Degforyou

But, but, but…IT’S JUST A MASK!!!

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ras52
ras52
1 month ago
Reply to  Levelhead

That sounds like you are describing yourself!

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  Levelhead

Is this your daddy? I determine what goes into MY body you moron. Not you, not someone in the gooberment. Not ANYONE but me. I don’t give a FLYING RATS ASS what someone like you thinks about the lies you believe.

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Boz
Boz
1 month ago

Our military will be purged, they will fill it with “volunteers” taken from among the muzz “refugees” that they are importing over here by the tens-of-thousands. Starting to make sense?

Xaun Loc
Xaun Loc
1 month ago
Reply to  Boz

Where did you and David get your tinfoil hats? Clearly you both need a larger size because the one you’re wearing is so tight it has cut off the flow of blood to your brain, resulting in paranoid delusions.

waterfowler19
waterfowler19
1 month ago

pretty sure its voluntary servitude, don’t remember there being a draft recently

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  waterfowler19

What’s that say about folks who sign contracts agreeing they can’t quit, genius?

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  Russn8r

OBEY. That’s your motto, Schart. And your M.O. is EVADE.

Idaho Bob
Idaho Bob
1 month ago

So, the same group of morons who just handed over a lifetime of weapons to the taliban, the same group who just gave the taliban the names of Americans and our allies, this same group of idiots is to be trusted with a “vaccine” that isn’t even a vaccine? On top of that, the “vaccine” that was just approved hasn’t even been put into production yet! HELL NO! This is the biggest lie ever perpetrated on the American people, and by our own “government”……………………..

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TexDad
TexDad
1 month ago

This is not shocking or new in any way because of COVID, nor are the consequences. You get in line and get the shots you are given. The U.S. Armed Forces aren’t asking.

Not saying that’s right, but it’s not some new slip toward authoritarianism.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  TexDad

Maybe the armed forces need to fight for freedom by first shooting every asshat that thinks they can force this on them. Frag whoever is behind it. OH, no…that would be? WHAT? Right for one thing.

swmft
swmft
1 month ago

care to read the truth, the vaccines are feeble at best and can kill those who had the infection naturally https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-15-studies-that-indicate-natural-immunity-from-prior-infection-is-more-robust-than-the-covid-vaccines and people who had sars 1 seem to be immune to all covids science instead of bs where is the far uvc 222nm light??? kept under the radar because it kills bacteria, viruses and big pharma

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Arny
Arny
1 month ago

Like I said when I served “prisoners have more rights than a soldier.” And with senile Joe no need for a vaccine when he’ll have us all blown up importing terrorist, or shot stabbed by gangs such as MS13. I will be standing my ground with NO VACC till my last breath.
And on another note why is Pa afraid of a election audit ? The rhino Corman attacking Sen Mastriano ? If you live in Pa contact Corman. You can also call Senator Corman’s Harrisburg office at (717) 787-1377 or his district office at (814) 355-0477.

waterfowler19
waterfowler19
1 month ago
Reply to  Arny

“till my last breath”? lets hope its not through a ventilator

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  waterfowler19

nebulised hydrogen peroxide inhaled a few times per day has been proven far more effecitve than those 95% fatal ventilators. I know which oneI’d put my dollar on if it came to that. BUT.. live hearthy and sensibly, take yer vidieyums, dn’t eat junk fod, stay active, and covid will be a fairy tale for you. HOW STUPID can people really be? Government have not said word one concerning how to be intelligent and strengthen the amazing and powerful immune system the God who made us included in the package. They also suppressed, outright prhibited, two safe and effective compounds… Read more »

Russn8r
Russn8r
1 month ago
Reply to  waterfowler19

All Fudds must hang.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
30 days ago
Reply to  waterfowler19

Because the ventilator is the death machine. 93 out of 97 senior citizens put on them DIED. Great machine for killing off the old.

Tank
Tank
1 month ago

Socialism is by ignorance, Communism is by force.

Anybody entity that threatens any person with Group Think Herd Mentality would be a clue to avoid.

American exceptionalism was founded on a dogma & tenets of Black Sheep individual innovation/ excellence/achievement not group think collectivism/Fabian socialism/Marxism et alia.

All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.

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Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
1 month ago

Coors told everybody that it’s in the water too and without hesitation they still drank it.

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
1 month ago

Sheep are pre-masking in Colorado to get ahead of the next mandate. Victims to their own tyranny they are addicted to the Hagelian Dialectic and the imaginary chains of mass Stockholm Syndrome and yet I am not astonished because I know them well. They are automaton and will march to their own destruction. It’s what they get from drinking that beer out of the brewery in Golden that gets it’s water from that creek that has a sewage treatment plant on it up-stream.

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